Julia Gillard as new PM. What doyou think?

[TheLoanMan]

I think I'm back in the school yard.....

[Thing]

I think you should redirect that comment at yourself remember you are the one who makes baseless and factless opinions

[DG58]

The problem is you don't, you open fire at random

[Thing]

Exactly as I thought...

[DG58]

Come on thing give us your opinion please you sitting on the fence and you keep coming back at me with your garbage.
All you can come up is that you didn't make up your mind?? how long does it take? and I won't ask you for facts, I'll simply accept your opinion, I might not agree but I won't make a fass over it.
FACTS are for the court room, here on NGE we give opinions, I don't force you or anybody else to accept it.
OH and also if there were FACTS about this subject, than there is no reason to argue about it, but many do so I suppose you'll say "I seriously doubt you know much about it at all eusa_clap.gif" to all those who's opinions are different than yours.

[Thing]

dg spurted 'thing, we're not in a court room and not everything needs to be backed up by FACTS, these are just opinions, these FACTS seem to consume you.'

but only a few posts before retorted,

'here's another idea, why don't you give us some facts from your side of the argument.'

FYI I've heard the arguments, but to make up my mind I'd like to research the facts and Computerflyer suggested where to start. Obviously dg58 has no facts and is just going to continue to bleat out his factless baseless "OPINIONS".

You make an opinion - its finally dragged out of you after repeated requests that "I listen and I read and I made up my mind" but refuse to simply back up your 'opinion' with the evidence that you relied on?????

Is it really that hard to simply state I made up my mind from this, this and this evidence??? I seriously doubt you know much about it at all


C'mon dg come back with yet another comment attacking me or my posts so that you can try to shift the focus off you providing facts

[DG58]

thing, we're not in a court room and not everything needs to be backed up by FACTS, these are just opinions, these FACTS seem to consume you.

"I don't have an argument to support or challenge anthropological climate change because I haven't made up my mind on it - there are good arguments too support both sides, as for the facts to both sides of the argument - well I was asking for your version of the anti side???"

So why are you asking me for facts if you agree that there are good arguments on both sides? it's like listening to Julia and Tony and then deciding who to vote for, and you come up and ask me for facts about why I voted for one and not the other, well I listen and I read and I made up my mind.

computerflyer, I agree that the climate is changing, it's been changing all the time and even long before man arrived here, "my stupid comparisons" as thing imply about putting sugar in the ocean, meant to sound stupid as the suggestion that we contribute to climate change, and if we do than the amount of pollution that we put into the air will cause the climate to change just like the sugar will cause the ocean to sweeten up.

[we r law]

Why don't you start a climate change thread? I mentioned the Greens' agenda several days ago and its ended up with this. I thought the subject was Julia Gillard?

[computerflyer]

It is not exactly an equal number of experts on each side - it is pretty lopsided in reality on the side worried about climate change.

Read the national center for atmospheric research educational pages as a beginner tutorial.

Most of the projections for 20-30 years hence are already in progress, like shrinking ice caps, increased wild weather, and changes to bird migration patterns as areas warm and cool fairly rapidly compared to historic rates. Summers are getting warmer and the hot areas are moving geographically. Winters are also changing in similar ways.

You can find a small number of unexpected exceptions, and none of the scientists will portray they understand everything going on. But, deny as some might, the preponderance of evidence has man's imprint as playing a part; from gasses to deforestation to polluting the oceans, and it all is inter-related. The computer models are frighteningly accurate at the macro level, and the impacts of control variables is not pretty regarding the implications for the future habitability of many regions.

[Thing]

'It's the usual slanging match with thing.

this is just the point, you can't come up with any facts to support your argument either.'

I don't have an argument to support or challenge anthropological climate change because I haven't made up my mind on it - there are good arguments too support both sides, as for the facts to both sides of the argument - well I was asking for your version of the anti side???

And your input is to point the finger at me

So do you have any FACTS to support your theory or are you just going to continue this charade and demand I take the opposing side etc etc etc

[DG58]

It's the usual slanging match with thing.

this is just the point, you can't come up with any facts to support your argument either. Any argument that the army of pro man made climate change come up with is a scam as well, you have "experts" and "scientists" on both side of the argument, it's all about charging us more taxes and for energy usage. I don't know about you but I don't want my life on earth to cost more for trying to fix something we can't fix. I think I had enough.

[Thing]

As I suspected, state your point but don't back it up with any facts & avoid it when asked to provide facts...

[DG58]

Thank you thing I needed a lough.

[Thing]

'here's another idea, why don't you give us some facts from your side of the argument.'

I've stated my side of the argument re the topic Julia Gillard as new PM. What doyou think?

'I say man made climate change and the idea of ETS is all a scam.'

And your facts to support this claim are???

[DG58]

"I have to laugh at peoples stupid comparisons...
dg58 - sugar, ocean sweeter re climate change icon_rolleyes.gif"

Glad i was able to make your day, keep laughing it's good for you.

"Here's an idea - why don't you compare facts with relation to the climate change debate to bolster your argument eusa_clap.gif"

here's another idea, why don't you give us some facts from your side of the argument.

I say man made climate change and the idea of ETS is all a scam.