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fairdinkumexpectations





PostPosted: 10 Jan 15 12:10
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Yes that is why we can say we are governed by fascists: when they can't get their rotten changes (which serves their friends from the big end of town) thru via democratic means (i.e. our chambers) they force their unfair laws upon us thru the back door, the scumbags... No need, now, to look for a reason to vote for The Greens, unless you are scared of 'change for the better' that is...
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PostPosted: 10 Jan 15 10:30
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Exactly what the NSW Libs did with WorkCover Act after much pressure for many years by the insurers themselves who also seem to think they are above the law or at least have enough power to pressure the Liberal Gov to enact changes to the law retrospectively!! As a result, I am left with a permanent spinal nerve injury that requires several medications at approx $140/month which I now must pay for myself and any further treatments I may need including my doctors bills are also at my expense for the rest of my life!! Without the medications or any potential treatments I can't work as I can't move and the excruciating pain renders me almost suicidal but definitely severely depressed. I have never stopped working, now could I ever afford to but I have had to reduce to part time hours of two days/week which means my pay only really covers my rent!!

However as far as the Liberals here in NSW care, I can go jump and care for myself as the responsibility is no longer the insurers, or techinically the employers given they are the ones that allowed me to sustain an injury in the first place by not following OHS at the time. The laws in place at that time meant that I was given a very small lump sum settlement and agreed to this on the basis my medical expenses would be covered for life by the Insurer. But given the retrospective changes made to the Act for all NSW workers I'm in a very difficult financial position. The only reason I am not destitute at the moment is my wonderful daughter who still lives at home pays for my medications but once she marries and leaves home, what then?? I am a swinging voter and do accept there is tweedle dee and tweedle dum, however I know a labour government would never have allowed insurers to convince them they were going broke and needed these changes, retrospective or otherwise!!
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computerflyer





PostPosted: 22 Nov 14 07:35
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Someone will surely add the ALP was in government in March 2013.

The bottom line is that retrospectivity reflects Tweedle Dee and Tweedle Dum at their "finest".
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computerflyer





PostPosted: 22 Nov 14 07:30
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Both the LNP and ALP passed retrospective immunity for their ministerial "excesses" when at least one from each side did not do the right thing.

However, Google the Attorney General's submission on 27 Mar 2013 re Kelli Ann Keating. The points raised by the Attorney General's office are nothing less than fascist minded. In summary KAK did not report things that did not need to be reported at the time, the government made a retrospective reporting requirement and charged KAK for failure to report things she was not at the time obligated to report.

Fortunately it appears on 8 May 2013 the High Court did not buy into it! That the government had the audacity to try is frightening.

Morrison's recent retrospectivity re registering with UNHCR in Indonesia nullifying the ability to approach Australia, effective on a long previous date, is pushing it regardless of anyone's particular views on the merits of immigration or boat people.

This government, particularly, sees itself as above the rule of law.
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snickerdoodle





PostPosted: 22 Nov 14 01:56
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Not only are the Liberals doing this, Labor is in on it as well. The way I see it, we will in our life-time, experience the death of democracy. I don't believe that our politicians have a future planned for Australia as a sovereign, secular democracy, but in name only. When, finally, this dawns on our very bovine and disinterested public, the government will hold all the aces to keep us from holding them to account and claiming back the rights they are stripping from us quite openly and brazenly. This is not only about workers rights, the right to protest, free speech and expression and all that, but also how and where we will live, eat, what we will be allowed to own, buy and all that. Not a good future really and certainly not what people fought for in the two world wars. We are in a way living the end times and I am not even religious, but you all might want to start praying.
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computerflyer





PostPosted: 18 Nov 14 20:35
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The Abbott government has apparently enacted another retrospective law. The subject is unimportant for this thread.

Retrospective laws are the vehicle of the lawless who deserve and should be imprisoned for enacting them. They make a mockery of law as a concept.

Imagine getting a parking ticket for your park last week that was OK then, but retrospectively banned.

This government will have succeeded in putting itself above the law if a retrospective law stands. Retrospective law is wrong and should not be an option for any government!

Yet another previously inconceivable low from a mob who demonstrate day by day they can go to unimaginable depths of self serving arrogant depravity.
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